ENT physician Frances Mei Harden on why physician wellness advice fails surgical residents, and the DBT distress tolerance skills that actually work inside the operating room.

Harden trained at a malignant ENT residency and spent her chief year learning the dialectical behavioral therapy framework she wishes she had as an intern. She covers Navy SEAL box breathing, 5-4-3-2-1 grounding, and why the stoic principle of changing yourself when you cannot change your situation is the only lever a surgical trainee actually has.

A classic episode worth revisiting. Search "The Podcast by KevinMD" wherever you listen to podcasts. Link in bio.

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